Hi
Tried to post here last night 3 times, was not successful. Will try again tonight to just give the URL to download my tracks. If can do, then I shall make further comments on the tracks and the trip.
Just go and download my complete tracks for the time being, it is 17.48MB in size that being the reason I have to use and external storage site at mediafire.
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cflai
Hello Lai,Originally Posted by cflai9353 [Dear Guest/Member you can't see link before replyclick here to register]
Wow, a great trip. You guys got fun?
Thanks for the track log, much appreciated and very helpful.
Thank you
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Another great jurney,
Hi cflai,
That is a huge tracklog with right setting of the GPS. I can improve many of the routes that I only had only on 1/1,000,000 scale to 1/25,000 scale level. I wish I can travel like your tracklog someday! If you need my help to "geotag" the pictures you took, I am more than happy to help you again.
Ryo
Which parts of that long track are really 4 x 4 ?
Hi
I hope you have been able to download the consolidated set of tracks taken during our recent 4X4 overland trip from Malaysia/Thailand/Laos/Northern Vietnam from Mediafire site with no problems.
So sorry I have combined all the tracks for these countries into one file, I assume each mapper concerned with their specific tiles can divide the tracks according to their needs.
The tracks are the result of a combination of 2 GPS units in one car - a NUVI265WT and a NUVI1460, they are 1 sec tracks and Nutracks software has been used to convert the raw data to .gpx format. Waypoints are also included. (You don't get elevation data with these tracks). The red color tracks are from the NUVI1460 and the green color tracks are from NUVI265WT.
Thailand: In view of the red-shirt trouble in Bangkok central, we had to re-schedule our journey to Nakhon Phanom border via the southern outer ring road of Bangkok on to Saraburi passing the "Swampy" airport and the on to Nakhon Ratchasima enroute to KhonKaen, Udon Thani to cross into Laos at Nakhon Phanom. On the way we visited Phimai which is reflected in the tracks.
My sincere thanks to Lurkin (he was then AsiaGPS) of this Forum for all the daily SMS and e-mails advising the daily monitor of what was happening in Bangkok (talk about networking!), also advice by Khun Sudaphan without which we had almost decided to cancel the trip! Would have loved to buy him a meal with beers at Kanchanaburi but we could not contact him as I lost my hand phone somewhere around Halong Bay (also had a load of hot air from the wife for the loss as it was her phone!)!
On the way back, we came into Thailand from Vientiane crossing the Friendship Bridge on to Nangkhai, Udon Thani, Pakchong and visited the National Park at Khao Yai, stayed at Khao Yai Garedn Lodge to visit an Italian village with plenty of shopping - (again, recommended by Lurkin).
To avoid Bangkok again, we drove through the northern outer ring road to Kanchanaburi. Tracks include a tour to the Safari Park at Kanchanaburi and then we bypassed Bangkok back to Chaam, Nakhon Si Thamarat to Malaysia. Many POIs have been noted.
Laos & Vietnam: For Laos and Vietnam, I had loaded all the convoy's GPS units with R6 maps and Rotweilers' V1.1 Laos and V2.6 Vietnam maps. My congrads to RCMaps and Ryo, their maps are much more detailed in terms of street maps for the entire trip, the main problems encountered were the crossing of borders. Laos and Vietnam roads on borders of Nakhon Phanom to Thakhet, Dien Bien Phu and road to Oudomxai were not joined thus giving very funny routes which were not useable. Close to Vinh, bridges were not drawn thus routing were long distances again. There were also too many roads at the border regions (Not deleted when new ones were added). Some roads drawn could not be locked on by the GPS [confused].
(Please note this is not a complaint but a comment on the usability of the maps. It must be noted that the number of man hours put into drawing the maps by the mappers from other sources must be tremendous and it is highly appreciated. And it is hoped that my tracks and POIs will help to get the roads aligned for future use...
I have taken a lot of pictures with my GPS camera and when I am back in Malaysia next week, I shall put them together and upload them too. I am sure the pictures of the road conditions will help the mappers greatly.
Thanks
cflai
Last edited by cflai9353; 19-06-2010 at 08:14 AM.
Khun Sudaphan
If I read you correctly, I assume you mean which part of the roads really needed 4X4 vehicles... The answer is the complete section from Sapa to Dien Bien Phu to Oudomxai were under repairs and very bad especially when the journey was done in rainny conditions.
I will upload my photos later and you can then appreciate the conditions then....
Regards
cflai9353
Ryo-san
Thanks, that will be great!
Hi Lurkin
Thanks and thanks again! So sorry could not contact you for a 'drink' when I got into Kanchanaburi as I had lost my wife's handphone somehere in Halong Bay much to her chargrin! (Your contact number was inside there!) Now have to buy her a new one ......Another time perhaps?
The trip was great with all 3-5 star hotels - even had a night on board the Victory Cruise boat at Halong. The worst hotel stayed in was the Him Lam Hotel in Diem Bien Phu (Although it is the best you can get in the town!)
The Khao Yai Garden Lodge at the front at a glance was not too appetizing but further check when we deposited everybody at the Italian village revealed a very nice joint with very big rooms and of pretty reasonable standard. The owner is Miss Siraphat, she is very nice, spoke English and still single!
A couple of people in the convoy had the runs from food taken from Hanoi to Sapa and Diem Bien Phu - this is mostly resulting from home cooked style food we were fed with half way in the middle of nowhere during the drive! (Imagine french fries being one of the dishes and many many fried eggs being another!). I must say food throughout the northern Vietnam minority regions were not so palatable to most of us city folks unlike the last trip through central and southern Vietnam which were good! (Handled by the same travel agents)
Maybe the next trip will be to HCMC and further south and back through Koh Kong back into Thailand......
Regards
cflai
Hi cflai,
Thanks for the feedback. Most of the area especially DBP to the north or intercity roads are drawn based on the paper map which is 1/1,000,000 scale. Your feedback is based on the real experience. As you mentioned many roads are not routable because those map was identified as "walking trail" on the paper map. (If you select your preference as pedestrian, it may become routrable) In south asia, there are so many roads which is only available to motor bikes and bicycles. I usually travel there with motor cycle and I often use tiny wire bridges those has only about 1.5m width or use small boat which can carry motor bike to cross the river. Garmin unit road preference can not separate Car and Motorcycle. I can't specify the roads which is not available for car but for the motorbike.
I was wondering how many times you drove the same roads because you had so many tracks on the same path but now I understood that you combined each vehecles GPS unit at the same time. That is ok. I can avarage those tracks to come up with better track.
I already started to fix the issue you reported. I am looking at both of paper map and your tracklog and found out my paper map is not up to date. (I got it 4 years ago) Route 4D, Route 12 is going to replace current roads on the map and many more is expecting to be replaced. I am not sure about the Laos-Vietnam border issue. It may came from integration of the map but, I will ask you several questions when you return from your jurney. I still have a lot of work to do to reflect your tracklog.
thank you,
Ryo
And I was already wondering about the colorful tracks :)
Pimai is certainly one of the places to visit, the historical park there is under continuous maintenance by the Thai government; very interesting to see.On the way we visited Phimai which is reflected in the tracks.
I bet you are in deep s..t in terms of your wife's handphone. Guess you will have to buy her new one :)My sincere thanks to Lurkin (he was then AsiaGPS) of this Forum for all the daily SMS and e-mails advising the daily monitor of what was happening in Bangkok (talk about networking!), also advice by Khun Sudaphan without which we had almost decided to cancel the trip! Would have loved to buy him a meal with beers at Kanchanaburi but we could not contact him as I lost my hand phone somewhere around Halong Bay (also had a load of hot air from the wife for the loss as it was her phone!)!
Just wonder why you guys didn't do the 5 minutes extra drive to see the other Italian style village "Primo Posto".On the way back, we came into Thailand from Vientiane crossing the Friendship Bridge on to Nangkhai, Udon Thani, Pakchong and visited the National Park at Khao Yai, stayed at Khao Yai Garedn Lodge to visit an Italian village with plenty of shopping - (again, recommended by Lurkin).
Last edited by lurkin; 20-06-2010 at 07:39 AM. Reason: corrected to Primo Posto at the end....
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